I think i might just try that thank you VC, and may i return to compliment and say that you kills on me last night we're excellent - you definetely had the shot when she's jumping down pat

I also thought I'd feed back some of my experiences trying to use the nade/flash techniques:

1 tk with a nade
1 team flash

I'll keep working on them

I think i'll leave jumping till I've got a handle on the throwing thingys