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PC Q's
By: [KM] Oak Date: 07/05/2008 12:54
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ok im gonna upgrade my pc


Asus KN-N4-E Deluxe Mobo
1.5gb corsair ram
athlon 64 newcastle 3000+
Geforce 6600 Extreame Edition 512 pci-e



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* 1 x AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5600+ 2.80GHz (Socket AM2) - Retail
* 1 x Asus M2N-SLi Deluxe (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
* 1 x Corsair 2GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C5 TwinX (2x1G

OcUK GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail


any one have any idears on how well this will run? and any one had one of them gfx cards do they run good? ill prolly adding in another 2gb of ram in the future (saveing old for a file server)

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Re:PC Q's
By: Commanche Date: 07/05/2008 13:06
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What OS are you going to run?
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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] Jack Date: 07/05/2008 13:51
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change this "OcUK GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail" to 8800 GT or ATI equivelent. The 320 memory aint really enough now and it bottlenecks alot of games.

Also if you even mildly interested in overclocking switch to an intel, if not then either will do.
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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] Oak Date: 07/05/2008 14:47
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ill be running xp pro as i dont like vista and ill look into the card Jack


Asus GeForce EN8800 GT 1024MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail


something like that i take it? or the 512 model?

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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] Jack Date: 07/05/2008 16:56
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lol, now u gone too far the other way. The 512 model will be fine m8. As far as Im aware the 8800 GT aint fast enough to use 1024 Mb of memory. Certainly mine has never struggled for lack of memory anyway at 1440/900.

While we on the subject, if you are gaming on a v big monitor you may want to consider a 8800 GTX, not the 9800 GTX above 1600 res. Also bare in mind that a new set of cards are due from ATI soon, followed by nvidia, but you could end up waiting for months so thats up to you.
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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] Oak Date: 07/05/2008 18:14
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BFG GeForce 8800 GT OC 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail



Your search for the perfect graphics card is over. The ideal combination of power, performance, and price, the BFG NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GT OC™ graphics card offers 112 stream processors, a 512MB 256-bit frame buffer, standard-setting GeForce 8 Series features and, a strikingly immersive DirectX 10 gaming experience. Ultra-realistic smoke, rain, explosions, lighting, terrain deformation and motion blur enable jealousy-inducing, lightning-fast gameplay in the hottest games, including Crysis, Hellgate: London, Call of Duty 4, and Gears of War. With full support for PCI Express 2.0 and featuring second generation NVIDIA PureVideo™ HD engine, the SLI™-Ready BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT OC graphics card was worth the wait.

- GeForce 8800 GT core running at 625MHz
- Shader Clock Speed of 1566MHz
- 512MB GDDR3 Memory running at 1800MHz
- 256-Bit Memory Interface
- 112 Stream Processors
- Shader Model 4.0
- Memory Bandwidth: 57.6GB/s
- Designed For Extreme HD Gaming
- Nvidia Pure Video Technology
- Dedicated Video processors free the GPU Shaders to run 3D applications
- Dual dual-link DVI supports two 2560 x 1600 resolution displays
- HDCP Enabled!!
- SLI ready – Upto 2x the performance of a single GPU (Available on with future driver release)
- True High Dynamic Range Rendering Support – Based on Open EXR technology
- World's first unified architecture supporting Microsoft® DirectX® 10
- Built for Microsoft® Windows® Vista™
- LIFETIME Manufacturer Warranty (Contact BFG representative on 001 866 234 3499 for warranty services)
- 24/7 Email Manufacturer Support (http://www.bfgtech.com/tech_redux.html)


***Previously sold for £139.99+VAT!***


that one? rofl


and i will never EVER have an ati again EVERRRRRRRRR

and i dont want a new new card i just want it to run AoC css and im happy

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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM]Equazion Date: 07/05/2008 19:12
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ive got the 8800gts oc 320mb and its fine for me. had no probs with any games so far or any probs in general



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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] The Wife Date: 07/05/2008 20:06
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Why don't you get one of these new fangled laptops?




Old joke I know, but it still makes me laugh!



oooo look at the size of my head!
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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] Jack Date: 07/05/2008 20:44
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got to disagree Eq, I had one before my current card and altho its a v good card, as soon as that 320 Mb limit is reached the fps nose dive. For example try running fear on full settings (bear in mind that slower 512 Mb cards can do this fine) or black n white 2. I no nothing runs crsis well, but there is a large jump on high settings from a GTS 320 to a GT 512. Considering the cards aint that much different both have the power to run the game. Take the 8800 GTS 640 (older one~), this is the same card as the 8800 GTS 320 but with more memory and suffers from none of the problems above.
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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] Oak Date: 07/05/2008 20:55
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that laptop has way morepower than i need :O

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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM]Sneg_ Date: 08/05/2008 10:31
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If you want to overclock, I suggest switching to Intel. You are changing your motherboard anyway. Phenom platform is OK-ish, but new Core Duos are much better. Don't have to go for the top model, don't need to try Quads (which don't really make a difference for games atm, its more for video editing and other tasks, which can generally take advantage of all those cores). Just make sure FSB is not cut down. For example, Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 2.66GHz (1333FS. You can then get it up 500MHz no problem (if you get a decent fan and PSU). Good case recommended too, but not that important since you aren't overclocking much.

4 GB of DDR2 Recommended!!!! Oak, don't be stingy! Get 4GB, you won't regret it! 2GB is a standard for any system, which is running anything more demanding than an Internet browser. Especially now when Vista SP1 is coming out and more games might appear that require dX 10. Mark my words, Oak. 2GB age is at its end. DDR3 is still quite expensive and that's out to work at higher frequencies so its kind of an enthusiast product atm but in terms of size... 2GB isn't good enough anymore.

OcUK is ok, but get a 8800GT with atleast 512 MB of RAM. An alternative for you if you want something newer - buy 2 9600 GT and SLI them. The result is amazing. They run better than all 8800 single cards and 2 of them will cost around 200 quid, so it is a bargain. ATI are shit, don't even bother. They win in terms of power consumption and noise, so if you are building a mid-range quiet system they might be worth it but apart from that... They suck atm. And generally 8800 is a decent range atm since more and more models are coming out, which differ from other cards by more than a sticker on a heatsink.

9800 - don't bother atm. GTX model isn't giving you anything really apart from a few new technologies NVIDIA introducing, like SLI with 3 cards, etc. GX2 is the best card in the world but value-for-money-wise its not good:

1) Noise and heat. 700W PSU recommended.
2) 512 MB RAM per GPU, when 8800 GTX has 768MB.
3) No dX 10.1 support.
4) Hardly any variety on the market, atm.

If you want something as powerful and expensive as 9800 GX2, make sure you wait a bit to get different brands release their cards. They might improve things in terms of noise and heat. Generally GX2 is just a PR move, a show of what nVIDIA chips are capable of (an answer to ATIs dual-processor solution). More model 9 cards are going to be appearing on the market soon and those are the ones you should look out for. I expect them to be much better. And watch ATI too, they are behind atm, but they are picking up the pace after recovering from 2400-2900 failure.
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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM] Oak Date: 08/05/2008 11:01
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well the 2gig of corsair ram is going to have to do for now as im on a tight budget atm so i wont be SLI either and i will be upgradeing it to 4gb a few weeks after i get it sorted.

and i dont ever overclock my gear as i usaly have little money to play with family uses it all lol so gear has to last as mutch as it can.

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Re:PC Q's
By: [KM]Sneg_ Date: 08/05/2008 11:27
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Usually, if you choose the components right and balance between price/performance you will not regret overlocking. The most expensive part is a start - you got to get a decent aluminium case, a good PSU and good heatsink+fan for your CPU. Once you have these 3 though, they will last for ages. The latter you will change more frequently because chipsets get changed from time to time and you might end up buying a motherboard, which your heatsink doesnt support but its not that expensive because chipsets don't change all that often. Same goes for PSU, if you buy a quality PSU you don't have to bother replacing it for the next 3-5 years.

Theoretically, you shorten the life-span of components because you stress them out. Practically, nothing happens to them. Nowadays, hardware manufacturers take overclocking into account. They know people will want to overclock. It is almost impossible to break anything with simple overclocking, unless you are playing with voltages, which are quite dangerous.

So, I would seriously recommend everyone on here to consider looking into overclocking. You extend the lifespan of you machine by atleast a year. At home I have a 3Ghz Core Duo Conroe (overclocked from 2.13 Ghz) and an overlocked ATI Radeon 1900 XT. These are considered legacy now. : ) I finished Crysis on all high with an average of 25 fps. I m not even talking about CSS or anything that is using Source Engine. That doesn't fall below 100. Ever. And tbh I consider that an achievement for my machine. The whole machine is about 5 years old. The mobo, cpu, cooler, memory and card are 3 years old. I run my machine using a 400W PSU (!!!). That is extremely low in terms of nowaday requirements. This baby has been running overclock P4 @ 3.33 Ghz. And that is a power killer.

P.S. Just so you know. I normally play in UK. And that is a compeletely different story. 1.7 Ghz Pentium M, 2 GB of RAM, ATI Mobility Radeon X600 = Overheating and 60 FPS when I am lucky (with hardcore FPS config), 30-40 when I m not and its time to extinguish the flames. I am not even talking about smokes, flashes or when there is more than 2 players on my screen.
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