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my vista hate list:

- expense
vista vrs XP, vista is naturally more expensive. In my eyes the price is not justified with a suggested new OS only 3 years away

- compatibility
all that hardware which was working fine on XP... vista cant handle. This, to me, isn't progress for any OS - its no help for the end user what so ever.
i understand the problem with shipping millions of drivers... but they could have left them on the disk and installed when needed. . . . or could they...? i cant see Microsoft jumping to make your hardware work... looks like its time to go buy some "vista compatible hardware"

- to inefficient
vista has to work on laptops just as well as it works on super powerful quad core desktops. the current breed of laptops are not fast enough to run vista. brand new out of the box laptops run slow... which is a sick joke when you think about how much you just paid for your new top. this is not only bad design - its complete laziness - which you would expect from a convicted monopolist.

- vista-only-software
this is the stuff that will make people upgrade and be happy about it. to start this off lets look at directX 10. clearly a way to force gamers (people with money) onto vista... and of course all the other vista only apps out there will drag people away from xp as well... but.. wait - there are no directx10 games.. and there is no vista-only software... XP runs it all (even the current dx10 games!)

- gaming
horror story after horror story right here in the [KM] forum is proof enough that vista just cant do gaming.
ive not been keeping track, but im guessing if you've installed vista you've had some kind of games related problem. this just shows how poor quality the OS is. its not like microsoft are new to gaming.. they have been building the xbox for years so they know exactly what games need to run - but with vista.. gaming was an after-thought.. and to force it upon people they use DX10.

that will do for now.. im going to wash up

-expense

Have to agree there, but that's what big companies naturally do when there is lack of good competition (for home users not servers). I know the retail prices are silly, but the vista home basic and home xp sp2 OEMs are the same price, and it's less than a tenner more for the premium (the one I'm using).

And that brings me on to one thing I do hate about vista, all the different editions are just stupid, they should really just sell home and business editions. Having three different varieties for just home users is lame tbh.

-compatibility

I've had no problems with that myself, everything like sound, network etc worked straight away from installing it. I only really needed nvidia drivers for the 3d acceleration.

However I have heard problems with the 64 bit editions, the potential driver problems of that is what put me right off it tbh.

-too inefficient

I guess it is lame for people who have oldish hardware, and I can see the poor battery life problems on laptops from it, having the cpu and gpu under some load most of the time just browsing etc must be a battery life killer, although there is a lot of power saving settings too.

I don't find it slow myself, but when comparing it against when running Ubuntu, which has a lot of pretty effects on desktop I don't think it uses so much resources, so yeah maybe vista is a bit inefficient. But it doesn't run slow for me so I don't care .

- vista only software

Yeah the dx10 thing being vista only is lame, there is no reason why they couldn't of updated xp for it (with sp3 or something), Open GL ftw tbh. Btw there is dx10 games out now, not many but more and more are being release.

- gaming

No problems here so far, all games working the same as they did in XP, and I wouldn't really call one help thread a horror story exactly. Look how many threads there is in help here for problems while running XP! That XP must be shockingly bad .

well i've been on Vista for a couple of months now with a new laptop and I am very happy with it. It is not slow, quite the contrary I might add. Applications runs so much faster everything is far more responsive than with XP. I admit I am far from being knowledgeable when it comes to computers but I am happy with Vista.

I have played css, HL2, DODs, WiC without any problems. I must admit the gfx drivers can be a bitch but my brother who has the same PC and vista installed them with no problem.

I <3 Vista, it's so pretty too

umm.. I just bought a whole new PC a few months ago with VISTA already installed on it.

And I have NO problem wit CS, it all working fine

xen wrote:
ROFL at whoever would use IE7 anyways .

I Know what you mean, but 79% of Lovefilm.com users and 82% of BBC.co.uk users do. so i have to code for them

Some of you may know my little problem with Vista...

I had it installed and it worked fine for me. Until BSOD

Now since then I can't even reinstall the piece of 5h!t as it just BSOD during a reintsall and I have tried EVERYTHING.

Back on XP now... and Happy (apart from the money I spent on a coffee cup coaster!)

you seen this choco? http://www.guru3d.com/news.html#5835

hope it helps